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    Quote Originally Posted by Whibs View Post
    With the changes being pushed at Nominet i feel the the catching will all but dry up, if registrars have the rights to make those decisions inevitably they will hook up with companies like DomCollect and NameMedia where thay can guarantee a bulk purchase of expiring domains. Alternativley registrars like 123 reg will simply allow back ordering via bidding in the same manner as SnapNames.

    Those domains not registered will be left to the catchers, in my opinion these changes are coming far quicker than we expect and will certainly make a big difference to the resellers opportunties.
    Those changes didn't go ahead, or have been put on the backburner for a while. Really good decision by Nominet to listen to feedback from all different angles of the membership who didn't want to see this. Catching is dying due to the names not dropping like they used to, will be over in the next year or two just because of the people renewing their names.

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    I would llay a freindly bet that by this time next year these changes will be instigated.

    Any takers

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    Actually I'd take people up on that. In the past Nominet would usually steam roller things through. This is a bit different because of the people that objected to it, not just the usual domainers objecting. People like Alex Bligh, Hazel Pegg and others were all against this and strongly against it on Nominet's member forum. These people don't usually see eye to eye with those in the secondary market, so it counts for a lot when everyone comes together with one mind.

    In fact I couldn't name a single person who was for it... I can't see this going ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aZooZa View Post
    The essentials are a good script, decent latency and quite a lot of luck.
    The efficiency of the script is a very significant factor - hammering the DAC day & night isn't the be-all and end-all, there's also the issuing of the actual registration requests - actually seen good results with preprepared automaton emails, which are signed and sent as soon as te domain drops

    We host systems for a number of catchers, mid-range servers do a lot better than VPS/Cloud, Linux does better than Windows in terms of milliseconds to nominet, but that's insignificant when the script takes half a second to decide to try and do the registration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astutiumRob View Post
    The efficiency of the script is a very significant factor - hammering the DAC day & night isn't the be-all and end-all, there's also the issuing of the actual registration requests - actually seen good results with preprepared automaton emails, which are signed and sent as soon as te domain drops
    Pretty fundamental stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by astutiumRob View Post
    The efficiency of the script is a very significant factor - hammering the DAC day & night isn't the be-all and end-all, there's also the issuing of the actual registration requests - actually seen good results with preprepared automaton emails, which are signed and sent as soon as te domain drops

    We host systems for a number of catchers, mid-range servers do a lot better than VPS/Cloud, Linux does better than Windows in terms of milliseconds to nominet, but that's insignificant when the script takes half a second to decide to try and do the registration.
    IMO there is no way PGP can be as fast as the EPP, mainly because it's against the TOS to keep a persistent connection to the Automaton open. Prett sure that the EPP route has to be quicker. I've actually also experienced better results on a cloud server than a high end dedicated server at the same company.
    Last edited by Aaron; 29-08-12 at 11:04 PM.

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    PGP is useful if the EPP system is down. There's no need to keep a persistent connection. The rest is in the code and how you write it

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    how often is the EPP down and the automaton not also down? I guess you may be able to get a "quick one" in the queue at the start of the outage and hope

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    Quote Originally Posted by monaghan View Post
    how often is the EPP down and the automaton not also down?
    I suppose that answer is in any logs you may or may not keep Alex.


 

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