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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyWing View Post
    I think that might be Microsofts strategy in all this, hold fire take the crticism and people will eventually come over due to lack of choice if nothing else. Only thing is though that it might not wash these days. I'll probably try Apple's desktop software before I try windows 8. Never used apple before but if current software is going for a radical change on the Microsoft side then I might take the plunge and start to learn Apple's OS.

    I really don't want to but if Microsoft insist on going down this path, I don't think I personally will be going with them until I have tried Apple. People often say once they get into Apple they never go back.
    Windows 8 Professional is apparently only going to cost ~26 to upgrade to. If you decide to go the Mac route then it'll be easy to run it under Parallels desktop or VMWare fusion. Then you'll have both Mac OS and Windows 8. You can also pull your existing machines into Virtual Machines if you choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyWing View Post
    That being said Edwin and I fully agree, that should see the sale of PC's dropping in the coming months / years as people ask the guy down at PC world to take windows 8 off their new PC or they won't be buying it. So the question would then be, will it be adopted by the hardware manufacturers as the default OS? Very embarrassing if they stuck with 7.
    8 will be adopted but don't sensible people build their own computers these days? I haven't bought a desktop computer since the 90s. Laptops are of course different. Windows 8 will work just like a desktop operating system for mouse or trackpad users. No touch requirements. It just has a start screen instead of a start menu. There are tools to bring back the start menu but I don't think it'll be as upsetting as everybody things. Give the free Release preview a try in a VM sometime.

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    I have been playing around with it at work as we have a pre release copy of it and Im worried for all the people im going to have to train and support as it is so different to any other windows os. just the way you have to open and close programs in the start menu and have to hover over diiferent corners etc.

    Also depending on where you right click in the start screen you get different options as well that used to be easy to find. I worry for the basic user that knows other windows OS but then buys a new pc with 8 on and will have no idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by invincible View Post
    Windows 8 Professional is apparently only going to cost ~26 to upgrade to. If you decide to go the Mac route then it'll be easy to run it under Parallels desktop or VMWare fusion. Then you'll have both Mac OS and Windows 8. You can also pull your existing machines into Virtual Machines if you choose.
    The only VM I find reliable (especially with USB pass-thru) is 'Virtual Box'. That's free and works on Mac and Linux.

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    Windows 8 went gold recently and the RTM (release to manufacturers) version has been available to Microsoft MSDN subscribers for a week or so. I'm intending to install the x64 version of that very soon in a VM. I might also put it on a 2008 Sony Vaio AR61ZU but I'm not sure how it'll perform!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyWing View Post
    To quote someone in the know on another site... "They want to turn my 1000 pc into a 200 xbox"

    Seems to be what everyone else is saying.
    Walked into the living room yesterday when the kids were playing on the xbox and remembered seeing this post! I can see exactly what was meant.

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    I've installed Windows 8 Pro x64 today in a new virtual machine running within VMWare Workstation 9. I've played with it for the last hour, installed Google Chrome and made that the default browser instead of IE. I think I will be able to get used to it. The main hurdle will be getting used to the start screen instead of the start menu but I think within a short period of time, and once I realise the power behind it, I'll get used to it.

    Mac OS users managed to migrate to OS X from OS 9.5 and the previous versions (System 7 et al), which was also quite different. I also remember users going from Windows 3.x to Windows 95. Many of us are recent users of iOS and Android. It's perfectly possible to get used to Windows 8 and see some of the changes as benefits. The main thing to remember is that there is no start menu and there are two "experiences" (modern UI f.k.a. metro and desktop). You can run some apps within the new modern UI as well as within the desktop (IE and Chrome are examples). It's very easy to switch between apps within the modern UI and the desktop via the top left corner. Bottom left corner gives you the start screen again. That can be heavily customised with groups and it's easy to find an application once you know the navigation method. I need to install some more applications and see how it fairs. However I don't hate it and think I will grow to like it.

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    Thanks for that. I think it might be worth giving it a try now after reading your comments. I do enjoy playing a couple of Blizzard games but they seem to perform best in Windows, and that might be good enough reason for me. The legacy 'Warcraft' and 'Starcraft' games won't run under OS X Mountain Lion at all: http://us.battle.net/support/en/arti...os-x-10-7-lion

    It would be interesting if you could test the USB port functionality with an iOS device and Win 8 under VMWare David - e.g. does an iPhone connect okay to iTunes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aZooZa View Post
    Thanks for that. I think it might be worth giving it a try now after reading your comments. I do enjoy playing a couple of Blizzard games but they seem to perform best in Windows, and that might be good enough reason for me. The legacy 'Warcraft' and 'Starcraft' games won't run under OS X Mountain Lion at all: http://us.battle.net/support/en/arti...os-x-10-7-lion

    It would be interesting if you could test the USB port functionality with an iOS device and Win 8 under VMWare David - e.g. does an iPhone connect okay to iTunes?
    I've installed the latest x64 version of iTunes within Windows 8, running under VMWare Workstation 9. My iPhone 4 connects fine. I can see it under Devices and everything seems as it does under Windows 7 when not in a VM.

    A couple of things to remember regarding Windows 8, especially for those that might try it and hate it at first! I cannot remember whether it was Windows 7 or Windows Vista which gave users the facility to pin applications to the taskbar, in a similar way to Mac OS. In Windows 8, since the start screen replaces the start menu, it is useful to do this with your most common applications so you can launch them from the familiar desktop interface. It is also possible, as it has always been, to place application short cuts onto the desktop. Consider the start screen to be a full screen start menu which isn't in a cascading tree menu like before. After 17 years Microsoft have decided to change it. The start page can be customised to some extent - the arrangement of icons can be changed. Once you get used to the OS it's quite easy to switch quickly between apps that run under "modern UI". I've been trying Chrome in that mode. If you launch an app that will run in "modern UI" mode from the start page you'll find that it will run that way. However if you launch the same app from within the desktop it will run like a traditional desktop app. Apps that don't have a modern UI mode will run in the desktop regardless of where they are launched from. If you're running Chrome in modern UI mode and desktop mode, simultaneously, it's two different copies so the pages you open in one won't show in the other.

    I shall try installing it within Parallels Desktop 7 soon. I see Vmware have released Fusion 5 for the Mac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by invincible View Post
    8 will be adopted but don't sensible people build their own computers these days? I haven't bought a desktop computer since the 90s
    Yep. In the process of building a new machine for my wife. I've built every desktop going back to 1996.


 

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